Episode 125 - Finding Grace with Dr Sarah Lewis

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In this episode of finding grace I’m joined by Dr Sarah Lewis who is the head of “penal reform solutions” Dr Sarah has a wealth of experience and knowledge working closely within English prisons for over 16 years. Carrying out her doctoral studies on therapeutic correctional relationships. She feels passionate about promoting humanistic principles in practise.

We were connected through a friend  and I think Sarah is doing amazing work here with her team and I can’t wait to share this discussion on here today.

In this episode:

  • Sarah shares what finding grace means to her and the journey she’s been on.

  • She shares her story and what led her to the work she’s doing today.

  • We discuss prison reform and what its means.

  • She shares her experience of going into prisons and the situation as it is right now.

  • We discuss why reoffending is so common and why reform is needed.

  • She talks about how mental health, drugs, trauma and poor choices often lead people down the wrong path and they get trapped in the system.

  • She shares her experiences of prisons abroad and what she’s learnt.

  • We discuss examples of how different approaches work.

  • She shares the difference between men and women prisons.

  • We talk about the importance of positive discussions and seeing all the sides to this.

  • We discuss why people have such strong views and why this is understandable, but beyond this discussions need to be brought the table.

  • We talk about how hard it is for people affected by crime to be able to navigate this.

  • She shares what’s bringing her joy in her life right now.

  • She shares what’s supporting her in her life right now, and why this is important for her to keep her cup over flowing with the work she’s doing.

Sarah shares this and so much more, this is obviously a very challenging topic for many and isn’t black and white. I’m so grateful that I was able to have this conversation and think Sarah is doing such brilliant work in a field most people will never go.

Do reach out to me to continue this conversation, as it’s one we need to bring out into the open.

Please look up Sarah and the work she is doing:

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